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IVANA KINDL - LET WE COME ONE FAMILY
IVANA KINDL
'I'm stigmatized for depression ... I'm not a believer anymore! As soon as you say that, the attack starts immediately! '
She has never adapted her character to the pop laws of business, and we will soon see her again in 'Singing Stars'
By: Tanja GattinPosted: October 1, 2020 1:34 pm
Ivana Kindl
Ivana Kindl
Marko Todorov / CROPIX
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We spoke with Ivana Kindl , a well-known singer and mentor in the show "Zvijezde pjevaju", which will be shown again on HRT on October 3, in her Velika Gorica. She came out of the house tidy, ready to be photographed, and with her hands full of cans of cat food, with which she then fed her pets in the yard.
- There are cats that are not domesticated, but return from the home to the street. Since I have a winter cottage for them, they are safe. They can be on the street because they have food and protection every day, so if something happens to them, I immediately take them to the vet - says Ivana, who did not resist the "street girls" from Split.
- Every time I come to Split, I make sure to feed the kittens at the Croatian National Theater and in Marmontova Street. There were years when I came to Runjić's evenings and before I greeted the team, I first went to feed the cats at the Croatian National Theater. When Porin was in Split, I fed the cats twice a day at Marmontova Street.
The famous singer for Slobodna Dalmacija reveals that she only spends around 800 kuna a month on food for "street girls". This amount does not include food for her pet cats.
- Those who complain when I take care of cats are hypocrites who would not help anyone. But it is important that they moralize. Admittedly, I have rarely experienced such moralizing, mostly on social media. But I’ve had a few situations where I’d ‘flirt’ live with some really nervous people who don’t mind having garbage around people throwing around, but they do mind that cats feed. I have a short fuse when I am complained about because helping cats is a good deed. We are not humans alone on the planet and these animals need to be taken care of. And the point.
Ivana is a solo volunteer.
Stigmatized due to depression
- Volunteers in non-profit organizations dedicate a lot of time to the worst cases of injured animals. Even though I took such a cat to the vet, I can't do it anymore because I have a weak stomach and I'm too emotional. As long as there are us volunteers, injured animals from the street will be rescued. As much as there are naughty people who are horrible to animals, the awareness of those who want to help is becoming more and more active - says the singer, who also has her three pets in the apartment.
- They all came from the road. Muki is nine years old, Cica is four years old, and Dragica, who is new to us, is five months old. It's like having kids. It can be chaos. But they are so much fun and so wonderful that you can't blame them for climbing where they shouldn't, ruining, stealing food and not giving you peace when you eat. We are always happy in the apartment - says Kindl, who is dedicated to a Christmas song called "Christmas is for them too" which talks about abandoned cats and dogs with the message: "In those cold days you need to open your heart and save the animal, because it's good work and the most beautiful gift ".
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Ivana Kindl
Marko Todorov / CROPIX
The famous singer says that she is out of the system, a rebel, a kind of punk.
- I have never adjusted my character to the pop laws of business. I don’t let it ‘systematize’ me, mold me. And no, I don't know how to pretend. I know that’s why some colleagues don’t like me, but I always say when I feel something isn’t right or that it can get better.
Maybe that's why I'm not the most popular and maybe some doors will close for me because of my honesty, but in my opinion it's just proof that we don't live in a free world where you have the right to comment on something in a normal way and try to explain what's bothering you. It's as if everyone can't wait to point a finger at you, twist everything and make you a worse person than you are. In that sense, I definitely don't fit into the stage - honestly, the singer who hangs out with people like her will be honest and open, who doesn't cheat and who doesn't rub the eyes of others.
- Sometimes it's hard to figure out what kind of person someone is, so you turn out to be a sucker because you fell for someone's charm, and then it will be - alas. The older I get the wiser I am and the better I can judge people.
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When she protested before, she admits, she used to be nervous about it, so the wrong words would come out. But that, she adds, was at a time when she was depressed and still didn’t know why she was so nervous and why she was oscillating with moods.
- People who suffer as I have suffered are stigmatized because society does not understand us. In general, as a nation, they should show more understanding. Because the psyche is very important, and we pay the least attention to it. That's why it sends the following message:
- When people behave in a way that everyone condemns them for, one should consider whether those people do it because they are unhappy. It just comes out their frustration, and that doesn’t mean they are bad people. I myself have been quarrelsome before. And now, when I see that someone is nervous, I try to calm him down - Kindl explains for Slobodna Dalmacija .
- People generally have the urge to run away from difficult people. I learned how to approach them by reading books about it and watching documentaries in which these relationships are broken down. Of course, not everyone can do that, and the best people can empathize like me, who feel everything too intensely. That is why we can understand others very well and know how to calm them down, instead of getting into an argument and condemning them.
When she went public with her fight against depression, which, she notes, she managed to solve, many people came to her with the same problem.
'I am no longer a believer'
- As if they could hardly wait for someone famous to come out with this topic in public, so that they could find understanding. To all who contacted me, I responded to messages and I am sorry if I did not have time to respond to all immediately. I listened to them all. I am hurt by other people's stories because I know how they feel. They’re empaths too, so they sense if you’re superficial in communicating with them and if you just want to do it. Then they feel even worse. That is why they need to show a true understanding of their problem - reveals Kindle.
He is angry that many still take depression lightly, so they say, for example, that they have been depressed for two months.
- Then don't use that term, because it is a transient sadness, while depression is a disease and it doesn't just go away like that, it's a difficult condition!
She says she became depressed in her 30s.
- I became aware of religion and the social system and how much corruption there is, because until then I wore pink glasses, idealized everything and expected a psychological revolution. But while technology has advanced, people unfortunately haven’t. We are all divided on the same topics as a hundred years ago, so people still hate each other on national and racial grounds, there is even more censorship and less freedom of speech. I don’t like this 21st century at all. Many parents from an early age, often unknowingly, mold their children into the system without teaching them to think critically, including when it comes to religion. I became aware of religion and I am no longer a believer. When you say that you are not a believer, you are immediately attacked and there are difficult and futile discussions. How will I, who do not believe, endanger someone who believes ?! If someone thinks I'm endangering him, then he has a problem, and not me. I know very few true believers and they never judge - Ivana points out forFree Dalmatia .
She also touched on children's issues.
- I adore children and they adore me. I thought a lot and decided not to have children of my own. You just know that - said Ivana at the end.
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