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Is religious education a place in public schools? We confronted the two sides and got a great debate
Žarko Puhovski and Blaženka Sr. Valentina Mandarić discussed the issue of religious education in schools in the Hanza media study
Writes: Marko SpoljarPosted: October 1, 2020 11:06 pm
Blaženka Sr. Valentina Mandarić and Žarko Puhovski with host and editor Marko Špoljar
Blaženka Sr. Valentina Mandarić and Žarko Puhovski with host and editor Marko Špoljar
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Whether religious education is a place in public schools or not, why the Church invests so much effort and energy to make religious education present in schools from the first grade of primary school, whether religious teachers indoctrinate children with Catholic Church ideology or, as religious education advocates say, give children more than Catholic doctrine and teach them religious culture, what is the role of the Church in our society and how intertwined it is with the state, are the topics covered in the Hansa media studio in the show "Without Prejudice" - a new video format of Jutarnji list views and arguments of our guests on important social, political, worldview and ideological issues - discussed philosopher, political scientist and retired professor at the Faculty of Philosophy in Zagreb Žarko Puhovski andBlaženka Sr. Valentina Mandarić , head of the Office of the Zagreb Archdiocese for religious education at school and professor at the Catholic Theological Faculty.
"It is wrong to keep children in religious education by force. I support it politically from the bottom of my heart, because any compulsion to religious education weakens the influence of religion and increases the number of atheists. Well, politically, it is good for atheists and bad for religion." said Žarko Puhovski with obvious irony.
Therefore, we also asked him, also with a lot of irony: If so, should religious education be allowed in Croatian schools until there are no more believers?
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- It was ironically formulated, but that irony has a basis. There are very few atheists, but he is slowly growing, that is a fact. Secondly, I have experience from the period about forty years ago when Marxism became a compulsory subject. It was called TIPS, Theory and Practice of Self-governing Socialism, but the subject was called "Tipso" by people, as one detergent was called. It is my belief that the point of a school is to make all knowledge hated - and that the school, unfortunately, achieves that. People also hate wonderful things like math, although there is nothing more beautiful and intellectually exciting than it is. Millions of people will tell you that they hate math because they were harassed and bullied at school. That is the problem that is happening here. Next, you have the simple fact of an oil slick, the wider the shallower it is. When religious education was introduced as an elective, but due to the vast majority of enrolled students, a de facto compulsory school subject proved that the Church had no intellectual potential for it. And that religious teachers, like the former teachers of Marxism, were gathered upside down. These religious teachers could not maintain the level of teaching and, above all, attract the attention of children. Speaking in principle, as a teacher, I think it is wrong that religious education in schools should be held in churches. And as a political atheist, I can say: "Okay, that strengthens us, and weakens them", if it is already a matter of opposition between two very unequal parts of society - says Puhovski. I think it is wrong that religious education in schools should be held in churches. And as a political atheist, I can say: "Okay, that strengthens us, and weakens them", if it is already a matter of opposition between two very unequal parts of society - says Puhovski. I think it is wrong that religious education in schools should be held in churches. And as a political atheist, I can say: "Okay, that strengthens us, and weakens them", if it is already a matter of opposition between two very unequal parts of society - says Puhovski.
We asked Valentina Mandarić why the Church insists so much that religious education be present in schools from the first grade of primary school and whether children at that age are even able to valorize such content in the right way.
- I would go back to the beginning of the show when you said that at the beginning of each school year, religious education divides the Croatian public. I would not say that, but first of all I am sorry that the issue of religious education in schools is often discussed without arguments. It would be correct for someone who is against religious education in schools to present arguments for their claims and not to make lump sum grades. You also ask why the Church insists so much on religious education in schools. I would say that religious education, regardless of the Church, is religious education. Which in our country is called "religious education in schools". Religious education should primarily be in the interest of the state. That students possess a certain religious knowledge just as they acquire competencies in various other subjects in schools. If it was ever necessary, it is necessary nowadays, because we live in a multicultural society.
In the attached recording of the entire show, see how the head of the Zagreb Archdiocese's Office for Religious Education at School answered the question of whether Croatian schools are really about religious education or indoctrinating students with the ideology of the Catholic Church; why the philosopher and political scientist Puhovski considers it important in the educational system to start from “a god with a small initial letter b”, and why he thinks that Jesus Christ is not a historical figure.
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